Oh you know, a little of this, a little of that.
If you like this movie you hate freedom.
Published on November 3, 2010 By Swiss Knight In Everything Else
The year is 1916 and Russia is an agrarian paradise under the benevolent rule of Tsar Nicholas II. Sound shocking dear reader?! Well read on to see the true extent of the counter-revolutionary lies to be found in the 1997 Animated Musical “Anastasia”.

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Note the working class freezing to death in the background

 
Exhibit A:

“There was a time, not very long ago when we lived in an enchanted world of elegant palaces and grand parties. The year was 1916, and my son Nicholas was the Tsar of Imperial Russia.”


If this sentence does not make you want to burn down Fox Animation Studios then you are a pathetic piece of human filth. First of all, this opening scene is supposed to show us the wonderful world of Imperial Russia but all it does is give us an inside view into the grotesque hedonistic rule of Nicholas II.


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"ahaha the peasantry are so mundane, I'm glad they're dying in World War 1"

Who the frak does he think he is throwing a god damn party while there is a war on?

Later, while the god damn “Grand Duchess” Anastasia is being given an ornate jewellery music box encrusted with diamonds and crap, probably worth the yearly salaries of those fighting on the front, a peasant boy is scolded by some guy for daring to show his face in public saying “you belong in the kitchen!” That an animated film directed towards young children would blatantly show child labour and classism without any apparent negative connotations is outrageous. Outrageous!!


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Later, Rasputin shows up and is now pretty much a warlock now. Tsar Nicholas tells him to get the hell out and Rasputin vows to curse them all or something. So he uses his magic to create green flying things to cause a revolution. This is perhaps the most offensive image in the movie. Apparently the Russian Revolution, the greatest example of Peace Loving Workers and Peasants rising up to cast off the shackles of a corrupt aristocracy was not caused by the various massacres, incompetence in WWI or the multitude of other injustices suffered by the Russian people at the hands of their government, but instead a wizard did it all or something.


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thanks for the help satan!

The weirdest thing is that the revolution seemed to be confined to about 100 people yelling at the palace. The green demons help them out by unlocking the gates, and the revolutionaries go in and torch the place. Maybe all the massacres and stuff did lead the Russian people to revolt, but they needed the help of green imps to unlock the gate. These are the questions this movie has left me with.


Exhibit B:

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As you can see, this representation of Leningrad (called St. Petersburg in the film in yet another example of its anti-truth agenda) suggests that in the time since the Soviets took power St. Petersburg has been reduced to a city of smokestacks and pollution. It’s called progress you assbutts. Show me an industrialized city of that era that does not look similar.

Those factories are producing bandages and metal pots and tractors and stuff. YOU NEED THIS STUFF, so don’t go and complain about smokestacks when your new tractor was provided thanks to the industrialization programs of the great and glorious Soviet Government. Frak you Anastasia. If it were up the people who made this movie, half of Russia would have died from famine.

Comments (Page 2)
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on Nov 09, 2010

You've pretty much nailed it, Khardis, but I think you're overcomplicating things a little. Perhaps its a simple as

  1. Disney makes (made?) movies about old stories and fairy tales.
  2. Most old stories and fairy tales are from when there were monarchies.

Although there's also the fact that from a plot perspective, Monarchies are relatively simple to change leadership in (now, they can become complicated, but that's sort of optional). In an ideal situation you just need to get the girl, while in a democracy you need to get a lot of people to vote for you, and in your average totalitarian state you have to win over the military, a considerable segment of the population, foreign backers, and the secret police before you can even start to think about making the current guy die of a mysterious illness.

on Nov 11, 2010

The joke is that I used hyperbole and ridiculous phrasing to over analyze a children’s animated musical from over a decade ago. This is what the kids today might refer to as “so totally random”, only the difference is I put in an actual effort to be funny.

My next post will be about “Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat” and how it is tearing traditional marriage apart. I look forward to explaining the joke in that one to you all as well.

on Nov 11, 2010

Oh, OK. That's the problem with the Internet.... you have to assume that people really are that stupid.

on Nov 29, 2012

wow. 

 

im not saying you are an idiot..... but you are. 

1 read a history book. and get your facts straight

2 accept that this is an ANIMATION MOVIE MADE BY FOX. SO NO THERE IS GOING TO BE NOTHING ACCURATE ABOUT IT! I mean the story is that anastasia lives... 

3 russia was a wreck after and during the revolution. its a civil war in a reforming country. what do you want? roses and cake? 

4 holding grand partys and "displaying" their wealth was tradition. they had no choice. historicaly Nicholas and alexandra  disliked the festivities, unnesesary splendors, the wealth that the family was suppose to show.

5 yes there were grand partys thrown during the war.... its new years.....!!!!!!!! and yes the princess would get a jewlery box made of presuse metals and stones. she is ROMANOV. (traditionaly they got faberge eggs.) will you give the queen a piece of paper for christmas saying "op sorry this should be enough for you." 

6 yes there was classism in the palace. dimitri was a kitchen boy. (historically a kitchen boy was the las servant to leave the royal family before they and 3 of their servants were executed). would you not tell a line cook or a dish washer to go back to the kitchen if you found them in the ceo's office? 

7 really. if you like this movie you hate freedom....  ..... wow

8 before the revolution russia did have the money. they were at their height right before the revolution. great agriculture , industrial strength, and status. now the revolution did last for many years under the tzars rule. Nicholases grand father Alexander  II was bombed by revolutionaries and died hours after causing Alexander III to be exeptionaly brutal to said revolutionaries. but Unfortunatly Nicholas did not inherit his fathers brutality (refusing to execute anyone. no exemptions) which was a great cause of his downfall. also not wanting to be tzar in the first place. 

9 and lastly. the royal family did not use their wealth. they paid the servants out of their own pocket. nicholas had one set of military closes that he wore and patched himself. hey did not eat fancy meals. porridge, hot water, and black bread. the princeses spent most of their time as first aid nurses. and shaved their heads because of a vitamin deficincy that some of the sisters had. 

 

so in conclusion. shut up. and change your icon. red

on Nov 29, 2012

rabittalice
wow. 

 

im not saying you are an idiot..... but you are. 

1 read a history book. and get your facts straight

2 accept that this is an ANIMATION MOVIE MADE BY FOX. SO NO THERE IS GOING TO BE NOTHING ACCURATE ABOUT IT! I mean the story is that anastasia lives... 

3 russia was a wreck after and during the revolution. its a civil war in a reforming country. what do you want? roses and cake? 

4 holding grand partys and "displaying" their wealth was tradition. they had no choice. historicaly Nicholas and alexandra  disliked the festivities, unnesesary splendors, the wealth that the family was suppose to show.

5 yes there were grand partys thrown during the war.... its new years.....!!!!!!!! and yes the princess would get a jewlery box made of presuse metals and stones. she is ROMANOV. (traditionaly they got faberge eggs.) will you give the queen a piece of paper for christmas saying "op sorry this should be enough for you." 

6 yes there was classism in the palace. dimitri was a kitchen boy. (historically a kitchen boy was the las servant to leave the royal family before they and 3 of their servants were executed). would you not tell a line cook or a dish washer to go back to the kitchen if you found them in the ceo's office? 

7 really. if you like this movie you hate freedom....  ..... wow

8 before the revolution russia did have the money. they were at their height right before the revolution. great agriculture , industrial strength, and status. now the revolution did last for many years under the tzars rule. Nicholases grand father Alexander  II was bombed by revolutionaries and died hours after causing Alexander III to be exeptionaly brutal to said revolutionaries. but Unfortunatly Nicholas did not inherit his fathers brutality (refusing to execute anyone. no exemptions) which was a great cause of his downfall. also not wanting to be tzar in the first place. 

9 and lastly. the royal family did not use their wealth. they paid the servants out of their own pocket. nicholas had one set of military closes that he wore and patched himself. hey did not eat fancy meals. porridge, hot water, and black bread. the princeses spent most of their time as first aid nurses. and shaved their heads because of a vitamin deficincy that some of the sisters had. 

 

so in conclusion. shut up. and change your icon. red

 

It's a joke. It's called cartoon overanalyzation and was a pretty big craze around the image boards some time ago with several notable examples including: Pokemon (how Ash is actually in a coma and each character is a part of his personality and it is all a big coma dream.) Rugrats (all the kids are dead and have been imagined up by Tommy) Ed Edd n Eddy (everyone in the show is dead and the neighborhood is some kind of spirit plane where they all exist.) 

 

It's just a humorous interpretation of cartoons.

on Nov 29, 2012

You just necroposted a two year old joke thread to call someone an idiot.  Pot, meet kettle?

on Nov 29, 2012

the lack of knowledge of russian revolutionary history pissed me off NOT the critisism of the movie. 

on Nov 29, 2012

the lenin icon didnt help.

on Nov 29, 2012

No-one calls a fellow community member an 'idiot' on my watch....

...not with impunity.

on Nov 29, 2012

I'm an idiot, does that count?

on Nov 29, 2012

psychoak
I'm an idiot, does that count?

Ah, but we know that's true...so it's not actionable...

on Dec 17, 2012

rabittalice
wow. 

 

im not saying you are an idiot..... but you are. 

1 read a history book. and get your facts straight

 

Just out of curiosity, which history book did you read?  I've read several--I'm working on a novel set in every so slightly later than the Romanovs--and I did a lot of work back years ago interviewing my family and others who survived both them, and their Bolshevik successors.

on Dec 17, 2012

Glazunov1
Just out of curiosity, which history book did you read? I've read several--I'm working on a novel set in every so slightly later than the Romanovs--and I did a lot of work back years ago interviewing my family and others who survived both them, and their Bolshevik successors.

Glazunov1 ... I doubt you'll be hearing from him again on these forums....

on Dec 17, 2012


Glazunov1 ... I doubt you'll be hearing from him again on these forums....

 

I see.  Carry on.

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